Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes July 13th 2023

Date: July 13, 2023       Time:  5:30pm         Location: SBYC

Call Meeting to Order: 5:40pm; Notes: JMB

Attendance/Quorum:  Lee C, GT, Rich M, Al S, Bob A, Bill S, Helene W, Jane B, Tom W, Greg for Wayne R, Trey P, Morgan G, John K

Reports:

  • Minutes from May 11 fleet meeting, approved by majority vote.
  • Treasurers report, Rich, approved by majority vote.
  • National Class update, Rich/Lee, general update on H20 boat manufacturing.

Old Business/Action Items

N-S/Fiesta Regatta:

  • Slate of 5 competitors from Fleet 4: Pleione/Geoff & Remy, Webster/Bill & Steve, Fling/Bill & JJ, Cardremian/Rich & Paul, Cherry Bomb/Kevin & John. If 6th boat needed: Tachyon/Greg & Alex.
  • Update on preparations, response to Geoff requests for volunteers to bring appetizers to Friday night Dock Party: Bob A, Helene W, Geoff & Dale, Julie & JJ, Rich & Cheryl (cookies).
  • Volunteered boats and owners reps, Trey:
    1. GT went over scheduled adjustment of rigging by GT & JJ to happen on Thurs. Original settings will be noted beforehand. Red zipties will used to lock-in.
    2. GT went over H20 Class required gear to have on board and will resend email of full list to fleet.
    3. Trey passed around a spreadsheet for participating boat owners to provide slip Location and other pertinent boat owner info ie contact info.
  • Accommodations for out-of-town competitors: Bill H sent email to Lee prior to fleet meeting indicating that several Fleet 4 members volunteered accommodations but there are no Newport/South competitors requiring help with housing at this time.

Update on Transition to North Sails:

  • Sail order was placed with North Sails by Lee. 8-9 boasts participated in the initial order. Estimated delivery date mid-August. North will contact boat owners directly when their sales are ready.
  • There was thorough discussion re: the grace period allowed to change to North Sails. There was General consensus that there could be a financial burden to boat owners if required to change all sails to North by a certain deadline; particularly those who have new Ullmans with very little use.  The following motion was made and approved by majority vote. This change in grace period supercedes the vote taken in the May 11th meeting with regard to the specified grace period. The by-laws will be amended to reflect the following: “As of July 13, 2023 all NEWLY PURCHASED SAILS to be used on board Fleet 4 Harbor 20s during competitions must be manufactured by North Sails.”

Vang, Backstay & Outhaul Modifications, Bill S:

  • There was general discussion re: Vang corrosion problem, stock vang bracket is susceptible to corrosion by using SST fastener on aluminum.  Similar situation created corrosion with the mast saddle fitting and fleet rules were previously  modified to allow for boat owners to change this fitting.  It was agreed at the meeting that fleet boat owners should be allowed but not required to replace the saddle fitting, an amendment to the bylaws is not required in order to do this.
  • There was thorough discussion about the ineffectiveness of the current backstay adjustment on the H20 and a suggestion that it could be modified in order to make it more efficient and functional. Some fleet members expressed concern about making such changes. A motion was proposed and approved by majority to allow for but not require the modification as stated below, The Fleet bylaws shall be amended to reflect this change. “A 2:1 block system may be added to the backstay tension line between the base of the barney post and the cleat.”
  • There was further discussion re: improving the functionality of the current outhaul adjustment on the H20.  There were many who thought this could be improved upon by allowing for modification. There was also some reluctance to making changes to the boats. Recommendations were made on both sides: to allow for changes and to keep the boats as there are. At the end of discussion a motion was made and passed by majority vote. The fleet bylaws will be amended to reflect the following:  “A 2:1 block may be added to the main outhaul clew shackle at the aft end of the boom.”
  • Bylaws: The fleet will need a volunteer to amend the By-laws as per votes taken by the fleet in our last 2 help with meetings. Please contact Lee if you can help with this.

New Business:

  1. Next Fleet meeting Thurs Aug 10th, Brad to give rules talk on downwind racing.
  2. Fleet Party, Wayne & Dorothy R. have offered to host fleet party, date Sept? TBD.
  3. The dates for the Miramar Anchor Down changed to Sat. Sept 23, and the date for the Single-Handed race changed to Sun. Sept 10th. (Swapped dates from current SBYC Schedule).

Meeting adjourned:  7:11 p.m.

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes, May 11th, 2023

Time: 5:30pm Location: SBYC

Call Meeting to Order by Lee 5:35pm Recorded by: JMB

Quorum confirmed, Boat owners attending: L. Cushman, Al, GT, G. Slaff, T. Pinner, J. Barrett, R. Miller, B. Sheridan, H. Webb, J. Yabsley, By Proxy: W. Rosing (Greg Hopkins), B. Atwater (Rich). 12 boats represented.

Old Business/Action Items

• Evaluation and decision on using North Sails vs Ullman On-the-water trials, followed by discussion and debate by the H20 sail committee has resulted in their recommendation that we change sail manufacturers to North Sail. This will include Main, jib and spinnaker. All points of comparison, advantages and disadvantages have been recorded in the attached report from the sail committee. After further discussion during the meeting a motion to adopt the sail committee’s recommendation to change to North sails was proposed, voted on and approved by the fleet. Current Ullman sails can be used to compete throughout the 2023/24 competitions. Please refer to the attached report for further details. The modification to the Fleet 4 By-laws will be written to reflect the change that was approved by the fleet and will be reviewed by the board to finalize. The fleet discussed the recommendation in the report to allow owners to decide whether to opt for a Bolt rope or slides when ordering mainsail. There was a motion that the recommendation be adopted which was voted on and approved by the fleet. Lee will get a count from fleet in order to get the numbers of sails that we intend to order and ask North for best possible pricing based on the anticipated order. Lee will also contact Kevin at North to confirm whether spinnaker will be an A2 build from Norlan 0.75 cloth. The intent being that there is a Standard Santa Barbara Fleet4 spinnaker built by North.

• N-S/Fiesta Regatta: Update on preparations and budgeting. Geoff updated the fleet on plans and preparations for the North-South/Fiesta Regatta. Spin clinic, practice races and dock party on Fri. Racing and Fiesta Beach Party Sat. Racing and awards presentation Sun. Competitors fee $190 ea. which, so as not to impact the fleet budget dramatically. Volunteers among the fleet helping with accommodations for out-of-town competitors.

• Update on H20s volunteered for the regatta. A full list of boats generously being made available for the N-S/Fiesta regatta was provided by Trey Amounting to 12 total H20’s. There was discussion as to necessity of keeping consistency of sail manufacturer that will be used. General agreement that Ulman Sails should be used for the Regatta as that is what most boats will be equipped with at the time of the regatta July 22-23.

• Clarification on lending boats to participants in SBYC Women’s regatta. TABLED. Competitors for the event will request use of individual H20s through Brad prior to the event which will then be communicated to Trey.

• Update on the process of petitioning PHRF for a review and modification of the H20 Rating. The fleet is laying the groundwork to petition the regional PHRF committee to be given a more realistic rating for the H20. In order to do this, we’d like as many boat owners as possible to register their boat and compete in PHRF events in order to create data that will be used in our petition. An email will be sent out to solicit participation from the fleet.

• Feedback from participants in the Spring Regatta re: the recent change to limiting the length of race for the H20s. There was mixed feedback on whether the shorter time on the water during regattas was helpful or not. Suggested to make start time for the H20’s later but that could prove difficult to manage. Reported that Brad may also have suggestions that would allow for bathroom breaks for competitors by using a committee boat or a skiff to the harbor restroom.

• Scheduling of a new Rules Seminar September was identified as a good month to aim for next Rules Seminar.

• Fleet Party Bill Sheridan will get back to the fleet with a date.

New Business/Discussion

• Clarification of bylaws, discuss whether points go with boat or skipper during regattas that count toward fleet championship. TABLED. Clarification on this topic as per fleet bylaws will go out to fleet by email. If any subsequent follow-up or discussion is warranted/requested it will be added to next meeting agenda.

• Bill Sheridan brought up the following Discussion items.

1. As Fleet has agreed to switch to North sails, there should be a realization and action item to teach fleet members how to effectively depower the sail plan to provide control and ultimately speed to their boat performance in higher wind range. Lee suggested having North provide this as part of tuning guide and at dock/on the water training. In addition, Steve Seals Made himself available to sail with anyone who would be interested in hands on Training.

2. Outhaul modification to include more purchase which will allow for adjustments while under sail, the group agreed that this is a pitfall with the boat. Bill along with Steve Seals have incorporated a prototype on Webster. The group agreed that this idea was worth developing and Bill was tasked with coming up with a written modification that could be incorporated into Fleet by laws.

3. Similarly, he suggested that the current modification to the backstay system in the Fleet bylaws be modified to incorporate more purchase Both SOD and Webster are currently testing prototype. The group agreed that this idea was worth developing and Bill was tasked with coming up with a written modification that could be incorporated into Fleet by laws.

4. Production boomvang bracket is a source of corrosion and boom failure Steve Seals who has run Sealsspars for several years has a recommendation of a bail that eliminates the high potential of corrosion and has offer to help anyone who is interested in installing one. Steve has measured the bracket and is confident that the angle of the vang is in alignment with production bracket and therefore meets the Class rule.

Reports

• Treasurer’s Report Rich provided a verbal report, stated bank balance as $2580. Report approved.

• National Class News, Rich, Lee The H20 Class board has provided the specs for the broader limits of allowable rake of masts and has referred any additional limitations of specifications be made by each local H20 Fleet.

Next Fleet Meeting Will be held beginning of July in prep for the North-South/Fiesta Regatta.

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes March 9th, 2023

Meeting Called to order by Lee: 5:35PM                                          Notes: JMB

In attendance: L. Cushman, GT, G. Slaff, J. Barrett, J. Jeffryes, R. Miller, M. Green, B. Sheridan, H. Webb, K. Dumain, B. Hahn, S. Seal, T. Pinner

Quorum: yes

H20 Class Business , Rich and Lee:

  • Membership no discussion
  • Boat Specifications (including Head stay Length Debate): Lee proposed delay of discussion until the H20 CLASS has made their recommendations/decisions.
  • E-W Regatta Hilton Head on October 14th: no discussion
  • Nationals Spring 2024 in Newport Beach: no discussion

Looking Ahead to 2023

Off the Water Goals:

  • Committee (GT, Rich, Lee, Shawn & Steve) evaluation and trial of North Sails. Various members of the committee took turns mock racing using both Ullman and North sets of sails with very close/possibly no discernable difference in speed/performance between the two different manufacturers. Sail Reps took sails back to make modifications based on the days experience and Committee will summarize findings and make a recommendation. Suggested that a compelling reason to change sails could be based on materials/durability of sails rather than on performance.
  • SBYC wants to compensate those H20’s owners who allow use of their boats in SBYC regattas. Brad has asked the fleet to let him know how to do this. Morgan proposed and GT seconded the following motion with unanimous approval: The Harbor20 Fleet 4 will accept from SBYC $125.00 per boat on behalf of the individual H20 boat owners who have agreed to loan their boats for use during these 3 regattas: The Commodore’s Regatta, The Centennial Cup and the Women’s Skipper/Shaloobs Women’s Challenge. The fundsare to be payable to the Harbor 20 Fleet Treasurer, allocation of these funds will be determined by vote of H20 members who participated in loaning of their boats.
  • Continue/schedule Rules Seminars: Lee: no discussion, dates TBD.
  • Schedule a Fleet Party, location: Bill Sheridan offered to host, date TBD.
  • Pursue modification to improve rating for H20’s; Rich Volunteered. General discussion about need/interest in improving H20 PHRF rating but there was some confusion as to details of the procedure and whether more H20’s should register w/PHRF.  Jane will gather more info from PHRF rep, Lisa Gilinger and Brad on the details of the process.
  • Build Fleet Participation: See below re: More Entrants in Regattas
  • Try to identify/acquire slips for potential new H20 owners when avail: Members cited two individuals who have recently acquired or have use of boat slips but are unable to locate any H20s to purchase.
  • Promote H20 Fleet 4 and Class: No discussion.

On the Water Fun

  • N-S / Fiesta Regatta (Geoff Slaff) July 22-23. Geoff presented a written outline detailing the 2023 N/S Regatta and surrounding events with proposed budget and asked for volunteers, see attachment.
  • Singlehanded Liaison: (Lee Cushman) no discussion.
  • Doublehanded race: Bill Hahn Volunteered.
  • Miramar Liaison: (Lee & Trey) no discussion.
  • More entrants in Regattas? Change up schedule (less races per?) Championship Series, down to six? Input during general discussion was to leave the number of regattas that go toward the Championship series at 7, this year will be exception as the Fiesta Regatta = N-S Regatta for the H20s. It was suggested by several members and further discussed that limiting the length of time that H20’s will participate in regattas may make it more comfortable/feasible for female competitors and therefore encourage more participation in those events. Geoff Proposed and Bill Hahn seconded the following motion with unanimous approval: The participation of the Harbor 20 fleet in regattas that count toward the H20 Fleet Championship shall be limited to a 3 hour racing window commencing at the scheduled start time/first gun as per the specific NORs provided.
  • E-W Race Liaison: (Rich) no discussion.
  • Coed Race Liaison SBSC: (Jane) no discussion.
  • SBYC Invitational Regatta’s (Centennial, Commodores, Women’s): Commitment from fleet for donating Boats to all three (Trey & Lee). Trey sent an email request to the fleet and received responses from those fleet members who are willing to lend their boats. No further discussion during the meeting.
  • H20 Fleet Race Committee duty, Sunday June 11th? Trey, Geoff, Steve, Lee volunteered.

Meeting Adjourned 7:30pm

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes October 27th, 2022

Harbor 20, Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes
OCTOBER 27, 2022 Location: SBYC

Meeting called to order: 5:40pm Notes taken: JMB


Attending: L. Cushman, G. Slaff, J. Jeffryes, T. Wright, J. Barrett, K. Dumain, B. Hahn, H. Webb, GT
J. Mikeska, S. Seal, R. Miller


Reports: Fleet Budget presented by Geoff Slaff and approved by all

H20 Fleet and Class Announcements:
Geoff Slaff was elected to the SBYC board at their annual meeting Wed night. Congratulations
Geoff!


Congrats to Bill Hahn and J.J. on winning the Harbor 20 class at the Globlin Regatta last weekend.


Registration open for Double Handed Race: Saturday November 19th. This is a great H20 race and we
have a beautiful perpetual Trophy for the first Harbor 20 to finish.


Holiday Regatta will be held Saturday Dec 3rd and is part of our season Championship Series.


There was general conversation about the SBSC triple handed race, with each member of crew on the
helm. Many considered this a fun format that we might want to consider using again in one of our
future H20 regattas.


Old Business/Action Items:
Following conversations that Lee Cushman has had w/ Ullman Sails, they have agreed to develop a set
of sails specifically for use by our SB fleet to test here in our location and conditions for the purpose of
comparing against our current Ullman design as well as a set of North Sails that will also be procured
for testing by our fleet. Lee will update us when sails have or will be arriving.

Any changes in manufacturers and/or specifications will be a fleet decision after there has been ample
time to receive and evaluate manufacturers designs. There will be an appropriate lead time given if
changes are made and no changes will be made before or during 2023 season.

GT agreed to format a spreadsheet that will incorporate the necessary metrics to be used by members
in order to document any of our individual findings when evaluating the prototypes.

Spinnaker Cloth weight was researched by Rich Miller. Our by-laws specify weight of spinnaker cloth be
not lighter that 43g per square meter and at 45g ours are within specs.

There was general discussion about spinnaker shape and understanding the ideal shape for our usual
upwind/downwind runs.

In the interest of time, it was agreed that scheduling of any additional Racing Tutorials will be handled by
the incoming fleet board.

Lee said that he needed to respond to Newport fleet captain with our decision on whether we will hold
N/S Racing event concurrent with 2023 Fiesta Cup as has been discussed numerous times. All present
voted yes, to do this and Geoff said he would be willing to head the race committee for the event.
Thank you, Geoff!


New Business:
H20 Class membership by our fleet remains low. All boast owners should ask their crew members to
join as a class member ($15) and those who are competing as skippers, even just occasionally should
be registered as class members. Geoff said that as fleet treasurer, he would go back to collecting the
class fee at same time as our fleet dues are collected.

The H20 Class has asked for feedback on the attached class Specifications information, see below.
There was some historical reference was discussed and general conversation took place primarily
about the variation in mast height and rake on various boats and why this has become controversial
within the class. The H20 Class board is trying to come up with the appropriate measurements that
will create an acceptable variance in mast height. It had also been discovered that some rudders had
been faired which is an unacceptable modification. If you have any questions or comments, please
direct them to Lee.

Lee will send out an email inviting volunteers and/or nominations for next years fleet board. If you
haven’t participated on the board recently or at all please at all please consider doing so.

Rich and Lee welcome any fleet member who may have an interest to let them know if they’d like to
serve as our fleet representative to the Class Board. Absent any volunteers they will continue to do so.


Next Meeting: TBD
Meeting adjourned: 7:15pm

Harbor 20 Mast
Rake Spec.docx

Harbor 20 Mast and
Boom Specs.docx

Harbor 20 Rudder
Specs.docx

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes July 21, 2022

Harbor 20, Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes

    Date: Thurs, July 21, 2022        Time: 5:30pm         Location: SBYC    

Meeting Called to order: 5:36pm                                                                             Notes taken: JMB

Attending:  10 boat owners represented/quorum reached.

Reports:  

  • Fleet Budget presented and unanimously approved.
  • Minutes from last meeting presented and unanimously approved. 

H20 Fleet and Class Announcements:

  • Brief conversation took place about events that have been held so far this year and what’s upcoming (more on that below).

Old Business/Action Items:

  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Sept 24:  Trey and Nancy Pinner have volunteered to head this fun event. Please pass on any info you may have from past years to help them organize. Al has offered to host Margarita Bar, YC end tie and committee boat have been secured by Lee.             
  • Mainsail design evaluation update: a question about the necessity of looking at new sail manufacturer was raised. Benefits of having a mail and jib that were better balanced were presented. Lee still planning to bring back set of North Sails from the East/West next month so that the fleet can demo the sails individually and a hands-on evaluation can follow.
  • Class Website and posting of race reports: If any fleet members have info, photos or commentary on our races and fleet events that they’d like to see posted on the Class website they are to email it to Trey and Nancy Pinner by the first of each month.  Trey and Nancy are happy get the material posted   but we need content sent to them in order for this idea to move forward.
  • N/S Racing event:  the possibility of hosting a North/South Regatta in conjunction with the Fiesta Cup in July 2023 was suggested and very briefly discussed. Lee asked for a show of hands as to who thinks this is a good idea and a clear majority were in favor.  Lee will now bring the idea to Newport fleet to see if they also have an interest in scheduling this event for next year.  

New Business:

  • Discussion of additional topics was curtailed in the interest of time so that we could move on to Brad’s well-presented and enthusiatically received tutorial on racing rules at the start of the race.  

Next Meeting:  Thurs. August 18th

Meeting adjourned: 5:51pm

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes June 23, 2022

    Date: Thurs, June 23, 2022        Time: 5:30pm         Location: SBYC    

Meeting Called to order: by Lee 5:45pm                                                                   Notes taken: JMB

Attending: 5 fleet members, 3 proxies, 7 total boat owners represented. Not enough for a Quorum.

Reports: Printed copies of the current fleet budget and the minutes from the last meeting were distributed and reviewed. All seemed to be in order but no vote was taken due to lack of quorum.

H20 Fleet and Class Announcements

General conversation about events that have been held so far this year and the upcoming FIESTA REGATTA JULY 23 & 24. Please register if you haven’t already.

AND

FLEET PARTY July 16th, Please RSVP to Geoff if you haven’t already. A final reminder and details will be emailed to the fleet after the 4th of July.

Old Business/Action Items

Mainsail design evaluation:  GT and Lee will set up a phone call with Greg Dair from Ullman Sails to further discuss possible design changes. Lee will pursue the possibility of procuring a used set of North sails after Nationals for the Fleet to try out

Rules Seminar:  discussed and agreed that our first rules seminar would focus on 2 key subjects: Starts and Upwind Leg /Windward Mark. The idea of holding the rules clinic on the same night as the next (brief) fleet meeting was suggested with positive response. Lee will ask Brad about his possible availability to do this Thurs July 21st.

Miramar Anchor Down Race Sept 24: Lee has a committee boat lined up and will reserve the YC end tie. Lee will be emailing the fleet to ask for one or two volunteers to head up this fun event.           

Class Website and posting of race reports: Trey and Nancy will make a first attempt at this by drafting a summary of this week’s WW race…certainly a lot of material there to work with.

New Business

N/S Racing event: The possibility of hosting a North/South Regatta in conjunction with the Fiesta Cup in July 2023 was suggested and discussed. This will be proposed to the Fleet for further discussion/input.

Next Meeting: tentative 7/21

Meeting adjourned: 7:05pm

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes April 21, 2022, SBYC

Meeting Called to Order by Lee 5:36pm Notes taken: JMB
Attendees: L. Cushman, R. Miller, J. Jeffryes, J. Barrett, T. Wright, K. Dumain, GT, N. Pinner, T. Pinner
Welcome new members Nancy and Trey Pinner, look for WIND SEEKER 422 on the starting line soon.
Reports
Treasurer’s Report prepared by G. Slaff, presented by Lee, and approved by the fleet unanimously.


National Class News, shared by Rich and Lee. E-W and Nationals regatta Preparation. Class officials working with Boat Manufacture to agree on boat specifications.


Old Business/Action Items
E-W Regatta May 25-27th Teams Representing Fleet 4 Cushman/Micheel, Slaff/Dumain. Rich Miller and Gt are contemplating team. Action: Rich to confirm all teams to Fleet 1 by Fri April 22.


Fleet Party July 16th will be hosted by Geoff and Dale. (Details to follow).

Fleet 4 is responsible to provide RC to SBYC, June 4th PHRF Summer Regatta. Action: Bill Hahn will need to confirm directly with volunteers for Race Committee and coordinate with Brad. Several members have offered including: GT, Tom, Lee, Geoff, Rich, JJ. Lee has lead on RC boat.


Rules Seminar no update, Lee.


Sail Manufacture Update, Lee will explore the idea of procuring a set of the designated North Mains and Jib after the H20 Nationals to use here for comparison to our current sails. The idea being the fleet could get a discounted price on a trial set. Lee will research if North would recommend the same sail shape for Fleet 1 as those that are cut for Nationals in Annapolis.


New Business/Discussion
Consider petitioning the National Class Association for bylaw change to:
1) Rule III.D. Construction III.D.13 b, regarding the 5” minimum jib boom height, 24” aft of measurement point.
2) Add standing rigging diagram to the Class Bylaws.


A lot of discussion about above topics. GT suggested that these topics would be better handled by Fleet 4 board. Lee agreed and commented that Class Board is working towards this goal (see Class News report above).

GT introduced the benefits of keeping the Fleet 4 page on the Harbor 20 website current with postings of our many ongoing events. One way to do this is by creating a pre and post race report which will be emailed to fleet members and posted on the H20 website. GT volunteered to draft an example of this starting with the Cinco de Mayo Regatta and Nancy Pinner is willing to help if we proceed with the idea throughout the season.


Generally agreed there will be more communication and reminders going out to fleet members re: our upcoming races, meetings, and social gatherings to get more participation. Especially important to have members attend fleet meetings where it’s essential to have a quorum to make decisions and vote on fleet business.


GT will discuss with JJ the use of a mail list server i.e., Google Group to simplify our fleet email lists.

Next Meeting: Wed. May 18th. Rich suggested holding our meeting on a Wednesday to see if it
is easier for more members to attend.

Meeting Adjourned: 6:40pm

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes February 17, 2022


Date: Feb 17, 2022 Time: 5:30pm Location: online via Zoom Notes taken: LC/JB


Attendees: Lee Cushman, Geoff Slaff, GT Koldjeski, Rich Miller, John Jeffries (JJ), Bill Hahn, Devin Walsh, Kevin Dumain, Jeff Mikeska, Morgan Green


Call to Order: Lee called the meeting to order at 5:35pm and confirmed there was a quorum.


Fleet board and officers were introduced:

Board:

Lee Cushman, Jane Barrett, GT Koldjeski, Rich Miller

Officers:

Koldjeski, Rich Miller
Fleet Captain: Lee
Measurer: GT
Secretary: Jane
Treasurer: Geoff
Webmaster: JJ


REPORTS
Geoff provided the Treasurers report and the proposed fleet budget for 2022, see attachment. Budget was reviewed, Jeff pointed out that there was a line item for trophies for the Miramar event. Action Item: Gt will review past budgets of Mercury fleet as comparison for fleet to explore possibility of adding more line items to Harbor 20 annual budget.


ANNOUNCEMENTS
Scheduled H20 “on the water” events will be headed by the following fleet liaison & volunteers:


May 25-27 East West and or North/South – Rich
Rich asked all members to respond if they wanted to participate, he needs to coordinate with fleet 1. He thinks we could get 3-4 boats and skippers could team up. Lee & Geoff were affirmative that they wanted to participate.


June 4, Race Committee PHRF Summer Regatta – Bill Hahn
Volunteers: JJ, Geoff, Lee, Rich. Action Item: still need 2 more volunteers.

Sept 9-11 H20 Nationals – Rich
Lee & Geoff confirmed their intent to compete.


Sept 11, Singlehanded Race – Kevin

Action Item: Coordinate start and finish with SBSC, we may have to finish ourselves.

Sept 24, Miramar Race Who??

Action Item: still need a liaison and volunteers to step up.

Sat. Nov 19th, Double Handed Race – Geoff

Various dates, local regattas, participation – Lee


Scheduled “off the water” activities will be organized by the following members, Dates TBD:
– Rules Seminar – Lee
– Mid-year Fleet Party – Geoff
– Mainsail design evaluation – Lee, GT


Lee requested that when replying to emails sent out to the fleet re: events, races and general fleet business that members would use “reply all” to help improve communication and increase event participation within the fleet.

To kick off the Spring season all H20 racers are encouraged to gather at a spot to be specified at SBYC after the first Spring Wet Wednesday race. Action Item: Jane will send email to fleet and help coordinate when closer to the date.

DISCUSSION
Miramar Anchor Down: Lee received an inquiry about the possibility of making the Miramar Anchor Down Race a yacht club event open to participation by other yacht club members and various classes of boats. The various pros and cons of doing this were discussed. Conclusion: A motion was made to keep the Miramar event limited to Harbor 20s, the motion was passed unanimously.

Trophy Display at SBYC: Lee brought up the offer by SBYC to display the Harbor 20 Singlehanded and Double Handed trophies in the Club display case, discussion followed. The original intent was for the trophy to be taken home by the winner, however, display of these trophies together at the YC would show the unique qualities of our Fleet and possibly attract interest in joining. Conclusion: There was a motion to have these two trophies on display at the SBYC, the motion passed unanimously.

Safety Equipment: Geoff followed up with work he has done on creating a safety check list for use by the Harbor 20s. Gt noted that both the Harbor Patrol and Coast Guard have in the past checked Boats. Action Item: Geoff will send out the safety list as a reminder to all Harbor 20 owners to check their boats and be prepared.


Expanding the Fleet: Gt brought up the Idea of offering “test drives” to other sailors that may be interested in the Harbor 20. Action Item: GT will ask if there is interest among SBSC members.

Next Meeting: TBD

ADJOURNMENT
A motion to adjourn was made at approx 6:45pm and was passed unanimously.

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes October 21, 2021

Attendees:

2021 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
Pleione IIGeoff SlaffRich Miller

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 5:45.
  • Approve August Meeting minutes.
  • Geoff to provide the treasury report.
  • Rich report on National Class News.
  • Do we have a quorum? YES [ Cherrybomb, SOD, Fleur de Lis, Cardremiann, Pleione, Tachytoo , Picante, ] JJ in attendance.

On The Water

  • Class Championship Series: Goblin Regatta Saturday October 23.
  • Class Double Handed Championship SBYC Saturday November 20 Geoff has new trophy commissioned.
  • Congratulations to Morgan (Misbehaven) for winning CHRF Lady at the Helm and Dani Hahn (FLING) Fourth Overall, 1st H2O out of 14 boats Well Done!!!

Old Business (Carried over from September 16 2021 Minutes)

  • Trophies

Provide trophies for the 2021 Fleet 4 Double-Handed champions.  (Geoff double Handed). Geoff has new Trophy will be on Hand to present Nov 20.

  • RULES Education

Action: Bill Hahn. Bill Suggested the fleet meet and discuss incidents on the course after Wet Wednesday races. He will keep a running list so we can identify the reoccurring disputes/misinterpretations of the rules and have Brad address. GT suggested windward mark boats rounding and gybing to port and fouling Starboard tack boats. Group discussion about this topic, Rich asked Brad specifics which he shared with the group.

  • Sails

Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. 6/17 update Fleet 1 looking at North sails, Lee spoke with Rick mildly interested Action: Lee to follow up with Fleet 1, realizing they sail in different conditions. See new business for Fleet Sail Order.

  • Safety Equipment

Geoff discussed publishing a list of required safety equipment at the beginning of next season all agreed this would be a good idea.

  • Interested Potential H20 Boat owners.

GT will talk with Commodore of Sailing Club to see if he can generate interest in H20 fleet.

  • Seashell Fleet Request to take some skippers out for a sail. Lee Followed up with an email and invited seashell fleet to give dates that may work for next year.
  • Hosting North-South regatta next year possibly using Fiesta cup as venue. Rich is to follow up and report back to fleet. Rich said Jane Watkins regatta chair was ok with the Idea. Lee voiced caution and clarity that all members realize that only 5 skippers from Fleet 4 will be able to participate in Fiesta cup if we proceed down this road. Rich said Fleet 1 waiting to get back to us.
  • Put Singlehanded Race on Schedule GT to check and see if we can be part of SBSC scheduled Bugay race. Fleet agreed race fee would be good support of SBSC. Action GT.
  • Fun Race Rich threw out idea of having fun race meet at SBYC dock boats rigged and draw names we all sail different boat then our own. Morgan commented if we do this insure to give advance notice.
  • Fleet 4 language in our bylaws regarding membership and eligibility to race, is not as Morgan remembered that we voted on last December 17th 2020 meeting. Lee Rich and Morgan will investigate. See attachment below that Morgan researched. Rich talked to Brad and he felt that it would be hard to limit a SBYC Member who owned a H20 from participating in Yacht Club race for example WET WED. JJ pointed out SI’s say Boat has to be a class member. Brad did agree that this example boat would not be eligible for fleet championship.
  • Long discussion which went full circle about Fleet Champion is it Skipper or Boat that collect points. I think we landed back at Skipper who must be Fleet member.

New Business

  1. Class Board assignment as proposed by Geoff in his email: He is stepping down Rich is staying on and Lee is taking Geoff’s position. 1st by Morgan 2nd GT All in favor none opposed.
  2. Winter Party Morgan suggest we start planning
  3. New Fleet Board needs to be elected. Lee to start process.
  4. Rich Brought up legal fees to close class law suit Fleet4 portion $8,000 much discussion Greg Hopkins motion to use $ 3000 in fleet savings the balance to be split by 14 owners, Therefore “Recommended” but not mandatory or required contribution is $357.14/ea. If contributions are in excess of $5,000 then less will be used from fleet savings. 
  5. Fleet Sail Order discussed Ullman Main design modification.

Adjournment       6:55 pm

Thursday, October 21, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

END OF MINUTES

Latest Fleet four bylaws on class website

F. FLEET RACES

F1. A Fleet Race is any Class Race so designated by Fleet 4 to distinguish it from evening races or other informal events.  All Harbor 20 Fleet 4 bylaws and modifications to Class rules shall apply to all one design Harbor 20 races in Santa Barbara waters designated for the yearly Fleet 4 Championship.

F.2. Fleet races will be held in conformance to the participation requirements of the Class Rules, and the helmsmen need not be an Owner Member or Skipper Member, unless modified by written notice from the Board.

F.3. All Fleet Races are counted for purposes of scoring the Fleet 4 Championship.

F.4. Any Fleet Race so designated by the Board qualifies for the Fleet 4 Championship.

F.5. The Fleet may hold a Fleet Championship in a location, time(s), and format to be determined by the Fleet. The Fleet Championship will be held in conformance to the Class Rules. The winner is declared the Fleet Champion, and may affix a red chevron to his boat’s mainsail under the standard insignia.

MINUTES MAY 11 2020

  1. Lee brought up for clarification the situation where a competitor who is not a Fleet 4 member might want to race in the Harbor 20 fleet for some race. It was concluded by all that this would not be a problem for determining the Fleet 4 champion…. the non-member entry would just be ignored for points accrual and all lower finishing yachts would move up a place.
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  2. MINUTES OCT  2020
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  4. 3. Invoking Class Rules:
    1. Morgan asked how our Class rules and Bylaws are normally invoked. Rich stated that he already had the action to discuss with Brad the membership rules and would also discuss how Class and Fleet 4 bylaws are brought into play for various regattas. Discussion followed on various paragraphs of the Bylaws that would be impacted. Morgan and Rich and others present with Lee summarizing, agreed that the best approach for now and for voting into the Bylaws at the next meeting would be: All Fleet 4 Harbor 20 one-design races in Santa Barbara County will be Class races with Fleet 4 Bylaws applicable.
    1. >>> Rich and Morgan took the action to fine tune these words and forward to Lee.
    1. >>> VOTE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MEETING.

MINUTES NOV. 19 2020

  1. Bylaws: No Action (Not enough members present)

A.  Action: replace F1 with “All Harbor 20 Fleet 4 modifications to class rules shall apply to all   one design Harbor 20 races in Santa Barbara waters.”

B.  Also F3 “All Fleet Races are counted for purposes of scoring the Fleet 4 Championship” is not true and needs to be deleted.

MINUTES DECEMBER 2020

  1. Bylaws.
    1. Fleet 4 Hiking.  Lee brought up our past proposal to revert to the class rules.  Some discussion ensued and it was concluded that the need to hold out a spinn sheet, to clear kelp, or to go forward to work jams and emergencies would not be precluded by the Class Rules. It was moved, seconded, and unanimously approved to make this change. J. Jeffryes will modify the online bylaws and remove the Fleet 4 allowance for increased hiking, Rule I.3.
    1. Fleet 4 Championship Races.  Al moved and Morgan seconded that we incorporate our proposed change for Rule F.1. Lee reminded all that the new definition applies only to one-design racing for Fleet 4 members in determination of the yearly Championship.  All voted “aye”.  Rule F1 is to be removed and replaced by: “All Harbor 20 Fleet 4 bylaws and modifications to Class rules shall apply to all one design Harbor 20 races in Santa Barbara waters designated for the yearly Fleet 4 Championship.”

END OF ATTACHMENT

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes, September 16, 2021

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting

16 September 2021

Attendees:

2021 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
PleioneGeoff SlaffRich Miller

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 5:45
  • Approve August Meeting minutes: Skipped but no voting was done all conversation
  • Geoff to provide the treasury report: no change
  • Rich report on National Class News: Skipped
  • Do we have a quorum? Yes, in attendance Firefly(John & Caroline) Fluer( Gt & Al) Webster ( Bill) Tachytoo (Greg), Fling (Bill & JJ), S.O.D (Lee), Picante(Morgan), Cardremmian (Rich)

Old Business (Carried over from May 20 2021 Minutes

  • Trophies

Provide trophies for the 2021 Fleet 4 Double-Handed champions SBYC Race.  (Jeff double Handed)  Action: TBC to provide trophies, Caroline mentioned that the Sailing Club runs a Double Handed race and it is great for the H20.

  • RULES Education

Action: Bill Hahn; Bill Suggested the fleet meet and discuss incidents on the course after Wet Wednesday races. He will keep a running list so we can identify the reoccurring disputes/misinterpretations of the rules and have Brad address. GT suggested windward mark boats rounding and gybing to port and fouling Starboard tack boats. Bill reported no reportable incidents on his list.

  • Sails

Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. 6/17 update Fleet 1 looking at North sails, Lee spoke with Rick mildly interested Action: Lee to follow up with Fleet 1 Realizing they sail in different Conditions no change of status

  • Safety Equipment

Geoff discussed publishing a list of required safety equipment at the beginning of next season all agreed this would be a good idea.

  • Interested Potential H20 Boat owners.

Jeff Mikeska in attendance found a slip and has purchase a boat taking delivery in 6 weeks

GT will talk with Commodore of Sailing Club to see if he can generate interest in H20 fleet

Tony Papa Won Commodores Regatta and was fired up to get a Harbor 20

  • Seashell Fleet Request to take some skippers out for a sail. Lee to follow up with call
  • Women’s Skipper Championship/ Shalhoob Cup Sat Sept 18th Karen Cahill is regatta chair and we have met her request to date
  • Fleet and Class Membership dues discussion. Fleet dues 100$ per boat, Class dues 15$ all owners and boat skippers. Note guest skippers not necessary, crew and interested parties optional.
  • Hosting North- South regatta next year possibly using Fiesta cup as venue. Rich is to follow up and report back to fleet.

New Business

  • Put Singlehanded Race on Schedule GT to check and see if we can be part of SBSC schedule Bugay race. Fleet agreed race fee would be good support of SBSC
  • Fun Race Rich threw out idea of having fun race meet at SBYC dock boats rigged and draw names we all sail different boat then our own.
  • Fleet 4 language in our bylaws regarding membership and eligibility to race, is not as Morgan remembered that we voted on last December 17th 2020 meeting. Lee Rich and Morgan will investigate.

On The Water

  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Saturday September 25th.                                                                   Geoff to let Rick and Nina Know Budget. Done

Request to Crew have been coming in is anyone interested in responding. Three Responses SOD will take a couple, one respondent is interested in Buying Harbor Twenty,

Another couple showed interest

Show of hands who is sailing. Tachytoo, Firefly, Cardemmian, Fling, S.O.D, Fleur De Lis, Tachyon, Pleione possible (greg to follow up)

Al taking care of food and drink dock side at end of race. Needs help setting up tables

  • Class Championship Series: Fall Regatta Sunday October 3

Adjournment

Thursday, October 21, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

END

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