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Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes, September 16, 2021

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting

16 September 2021

Attendees:

2021 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
PleioneGeoff SlaffRich Miller

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 5:45
  • Approve August Meeting minutes: Skipped but no voting was done all conversation
  • Geoff to provide the treasury report: no change
  • Rich report on National Class News: Skipped
  • Do we have a quorum? Yes, in attendance Firefly(John & Caroline) Fluer( Gt & Al) Webster ( Bill) Tachytoo (Greg), Fling (Bill & JJ), S.O.D (Lee), Picante(Morgan), Cardremmian (Rich)

Old Business (Carried over from May 20 2021 Minutes

  • Trophies

Provide trophies for the 2021 Fleet 4 Double-Handed champions SBYC Race.  (Jeff double Handed)  Action: TBC to provide trophies, Caroline mentioned that the Sailing Club runs a Double Handed race and it is great for the H20.

  • RULES Education

Action: Bill Hahn; Bill Suggested the fleet meet and discuss incidents on the course after Wet Wednesday races. He will keep a running list so we can identify the reoccurring disputes/misinterpretations of the rules and have Brad address. GT suggested windward mark boats rounding and gybing to port and fouling Starboard tack boats. Bill reported no reportable incidents on his list.

  • Sails

Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. 6/17 update Fleet 1 looking at North sails, Lee spoke with Rick mildly interested Action: Lee to follow up with Fleet 1 Realizing they sail in different Conditions no change of status

  • Safety Equipment

Geoff discussed publishing a list of required safety equipment at the beginning of next season all agreed this would be a good idea.

  • Interested Potential H20 Boat owners.

Jeff Mikeska in attendance found a slip and has purchase a boat taking delivery in 6 weeks

GT will talk with Commodore of Sailing Club to see if he can generate interest in H20 fleet

Tony Papa Won Commodores Regatta and was fired up to get a Harbor 20

  • Seashell Fleet Request to take some skippers out for a sail. Lee to follow up with call
  • Women’s Skipper Championship/ Shalhoob Cup Sat Sept 18th Karen Cahill is regatta chair and we have met her request to date
  • Fleet and Class Membership dues discussion. Fleet dues 100$ per boat, Class dues 15$ all owners and boat skippers. Note guest skippers not necessary, crew and interested parties optional.
  • Hosting North- South regatta next year possibly using Fiesta cup as venue. Rich is to follow up and report back to fleet.

New Business

  • Put Singlehanded Race on Schedule GT to check and see if we can be part of SBSC schedule Bugay race. Fleet agreed race fee would be good support of SBSC
  • Fun Race Rich threw out idea of having fun race meet at SBYC dock boats rigged and draw names we all sail different boat then our own.
  • Fleet 4 language in our bylaws regarding membership and eligibility to race, is not as Morgan remembered that we voted on last December 17th 2020 meeting. Lee Rich and Morgan will investigate.

On The Water

  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Saturday September 25th.                                                                   Geoff to let Rick and Nina Know Budget. Done

Request to Crew have been coming in is anyone interested in responding. Three Responses SOD will take a couple, one respondent is interested in Buying Harbor Twenty,

Another couple showed interest

Show of hands who is sailing. Tachytoo, Firefly, Cardemmian, Fling, S.O.D, Fleur De Lis, Tachyon, Pleione possible (greg to follow up)

Al taking care of food and drink dock side at end of race. Needs help setting up tables

  • Class Championship Series: Fall Regatta Sunday October 3

Adjournment

Thursday, October 21, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes, August 19, 2021

Attendees: ——-

2020 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
CherrybombJane BarretLee Cushman

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 5:45.
  • Approve June Meeting minutes: Geoff Motion, Rich second, vote Unanimous approved.
  • Geoff to provide the treasury report: Good shape balance $4,143 enough to spend $500 on The Anchor Down Race and another event. Geoff to notify Rick and Nina of budget for Miramar Anchor Down race.
  • Rich report on National Class News: Law suit against Class settled Schock (Odonell) given the rights to build new boats for 2 years.
  • Do we have a quorum? Yes ( Cherrybomb, SOD, Picante, Fling, Thachytoo, Fleur de Lis, Pleione, Cardremmian).

Old Business (Carried over from May 20 2021 Minutes)

  • Trophies. Provide trophies for the 2020 Fleet 4 Single-Handed and Double-Handed champions.  (Lee Single Handed, Jeff double Handed)  Action: Single handed Trophy to be completed before second annual race September 12th.
  • Rules Chalk Talk. Action: Bill Hahn; Bill Suggested the fleet meet and discuss incidents on the course after Wet Wednesday races. He will keep a running list so we can identify the reoccurring disputes/misinterpretations of the rules and have Brad address. GT suggested windward mark boats rounding and gybing to port and fouling Starboard tack boats.
  • Sails. Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. 6/17 update Fleet 1 looking at North sails, Lee spoke with Rick mildly interested Action: Lee to follow up with Fleet 1, Realizing they sail in different Conditions.
  • Safety Equipment. Lee reported that Geoff Slaff has almost completed the task of creating a Fleet 4 suggested safety equipment list. Geoff discussed publishing a list of required safety equipment at the beginning of next season all agreed this would be a good idea.
  • Interested Potential H20 Boat owners.
  1. WELCOME to the Fleet GT, great to see the colors of Fleur Di Lie on the course.
  2. Jeff Mikeska found a slip and is looking to purchase a boat.
  3. GT will talk with Commodore of Sailing Club to see if he can generate interest in H20 fleet.
  • National Class Roster. Send Fleet 4 roster to National Class Captain Gary Thorne. Done.

New Business

  • Seashell Fleet. Request to take some skippers out for a sail. Lee to follow up with call.
  • Request to Borrow. Boats needed for Staff Commodore regatta Friday Aug 27( SOD, Fling, Thachytoo, Fluer de lis, Pleonie, Cardremmian, Tachyon) all agreed to lend boats w/out owner rep. Lee to check with Cherrybomb and coordinate with Brad.
  • Women. Women’s Skipper Championship/ Shalhoob Cup Sat Sept 18th.
  • Fleet and Class Membership dues discussion. Fleet dues $100 per boat, Class dues $15 all owners and boat skippers. Note guest skippers not necessary, crew and interested parties optional.
  • Hosting. North-South regatta next year possibly using Fiesta cup as venue.

On The Water

  • Bugay/H20 Single handed championship Sunday September 12. Action: GT to talk with Pat SBSC Commodore to confirm start for H20 singlehanded.
  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Saturday September 25th. Geoff to let Rick and Nina Know Budget.
  • East/West in Newport October 2 & 3. CANCELED.
  • Class Championship Series. Fall Regatta Sunday October 3.
  • Goleta Beach Race Saturday August 28th. Several present expressed Interest in sailing all agreed wind cooperation with an early start 10:00 am, an hour ahead of fleet would make it a fun event. Lee to check with Brad on early start and get back to fleet.

Next Meeting Thursday, September 16, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

Adjournment

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes June 17, 2021

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

17 June 2021

Attendees:

2020 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
Pleione IIGeoffrey SlaffLee Cushman

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 5:30
  • Approve May Meeting minutes:
  • Geoff to provide the treasury report: Geoff was not in attendance. Lee Reported no change from May
  • Rich report on National Class News:
  • Do we have a quorum? No

Old Business (Carried over from May 20 2021 Minutes)

  • Trophies

Provide trophies for the 2020 Fleet 4 Single-Handed and Double-Handed champions.  (Lee Single Handed, Jeff double Handed)  Action: To Be Continued (TBC) to provide trophies

  • Chalk Talk

RULES by Brad Schaupeter 6/17 Update Brad Not Availible 6/19 Action: Bill Hahn

Bill Will follow up with Brad for perspective Dates

  • End of year Party. Rich Miller Hosting 6/19 5:00pm

6/17 Update Invite crew and potential new members. Group Discussed Following up with prospective new Owners and current crew to invite to party and give numbers to Rich

  • Sails

Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. 6/17 update Fleet 1 looking at North sails, Lee spoke with Rick mildly interested Action: Lee to follow up with Fleet 1, Lee mentioned that Fleet1 was currently undergoing same process and would check into see what progress they had made. Rich mention that their sail requirements will likely vary from our as we sail in different Conditions.

  • Safety Equipment

Lee reported that Geoff Slaff has almost completed the task of creating a Fleet 4 suggested safety equipment list. Jeff to Lead Discussion Jeff had unexpected family matters to attend to.

  • Interested Potential H20 Boat owners.

Trey Pinner (current J-70 owner) Lee, Jane & Tom following up with him. Lee had Trey Pinner and his wife Nancy out on CHRF race, Trey was on the helm, Nancy crewed.

Tony Papa is interested: anyone who has the opportunity is encouraged to follow up. Lee Followed up with Tony in person and invited him to sail a CHRF. Tony followed up with a text saying that he was interested but now is not the timing as he was three boats that he and his son are involved with. He would keep in touch.

Jeff Mikeska is interested and is trying to find a slip before proceeding with purchase: anyone with a lead should get in touch with him.

Al Salzer is looking for a partner. Post meeting addition to notes GT has taken al up and will be Campaigning Fleur.

  • National Class Roster

Send Fleet 4 roster to National Class Captain Gary Thorne. Action Greg & JJ

New Business

  • Seashell Fleet Request to take some skippers out for a sail. Discussion action Item Lee.

On The Water

  • Fiesta Cup Saturday & Sunday July 24 & 25( Fleet Championship Race)
  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Saturday July 31 ( change to September 25th Rick & Nina Yabsley to coordinate)
  • SBSC Co-Ed Race Saturday August 7

Rich Suggested adding this race to our Fun race Calendar.  3 race series, all three crew take turns

  • Bugay/H20 Single handed championship Sunday September 12

Action: TBC to organize finish

  • East/West in Newport 1st weekend October (Attendance Rich is coordinating with Gary of Fleet1)
  • H20 Double handed championship Saturday November 20

Adjournment

Next meeting (In Person at SBYC)

Thursday, August 19, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes April 15, 2021

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

15 April 2021

Attendees:

  • Rich Miller, Lee Cushman, Tom Wright, Jane Barrett, Greg Hopkins, and John Jeffryes.
  • Appreciate the notice from Picante, Firefly and Pleione II of other commitments.

2020 Long Term Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
TachyTooWayne RosingGreg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

YACHTOWNERPROXY
n/an/an/a

Organizational

  • Call to Order: 1740 (5:40 p.m.).
  • Geoff provided the treasury balance of $4,143: Lee forgot to present.
  • Geoff provided the treasury balance of $4,143: Lee forgot to present.
  • Geoff provided the treasury balance of $4,143: Lee forgot to present.

Old Business (Carried over from December 17th 2020 Minutes)

TROPHIES

  • Provide trophies for the 2020 Fleet 4 Single-Handed and Double-Handed champions.  (Lee Single Handed, Jeff double Handed)  Action: TBC to provide trophies.

SLING

  • Lee is working to get a fleet sling to Wayne so that sling and scale can be kept together. (Not Discussed)  Action: Lee to talk to Wayne.

CHALK TALK

  • RULES by Brad Schaupeter (see discussion below on Party) Action: Bill Hahn.

END OF YEAR PARTY (Rich Miller Hosting)

  • Email out to find number that are interested in attending.
  • Combine with Summer Regatta June 5th
  • Or combine with Saturday 2-hour Brad rules seminar? Invite interested parties. 
  • Action: Lee to send email to find number of people that are interested in attending.

SAILS

  • Continued discussion of pursuing better Sails for our fleet. Parameters that the Group has general agreement on is price, viewed as initial cost and longevity and the ability for all fleet members to trim sails. Bill Hahn, Lee, have volunteered and those present agreed that Rick Yabsley would be able to offer good input as he has done a lot of research. Action: Lee to see if Rick is interested.

SAFETY EQUIPMENT

  • Lee reported that Geoff Slaff has almost completed the task of creating a Fleet 4 suggested safety equipment list.

New Business

INTERESTED POTENTIAL HARBOR 20 OWNERS

  • Trey Pinner (current J-70 owner) Lee, Jane & Tom following up with him.
  • Tony Papa is interested: anyone who has the opportunity is encouraged to follow up.
  • Jeff Mikeska is interested and is trying to find a slip before proceeding with purchase: anyone with a lead should get in touch with him.
  • Al Salzer is looking for a partner.

NATIONAL CLASS ROSTER

  • Send Fleet 4 roster to National Class Captain Gary Thorne. Action Greg & JJ.

RACE COMMITTEE SBYC SUMMER REGATTA

  • Fleet 4 responsible for Race Committee SBYC Summer Regatta PHRF Sunday June 6. Action: All.

On The Water

  • Miramar Anchor Down Race Saturday July 31.
  • SBSC Co-Ed Race Saturday August 7.
  • Rich Suggested adding this race to our Fun race Calendar.  3 race series, all three crew take turns.
  • Bugay/H20 Single handed championship Sunday September 12. Action: TBC to organize finish.
  • East/West in Newport 1st weekend October.
  • H20 Double handed championship Saturday November 20.

Adjournment

1840 (6:40 p.m.)

Next meeting

Thursday, May 20, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.).

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes December 17th 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

17 December 2020

Attendees:

Morgan Green, Bill Hahn, Lee Cushman, Tom Wright, Jane Barrett, Geoff Slaff, Al Salzer, John & Caroline Kavanagh, and John Jeffryes

2020 Long Term Proxies:

      YACHT                                  OWNER                                 PROXY

Fleur de Lis                           Al Salzer                                Billy Bench

TachyToo                              Wayne Rosing                      Greg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

      YACHT                                   OWNER                                 PROXY

na                                           na                                           na

Organizational

  1. Call to Order: 1740 (5:40 p.m.)
  2. Minutes of 19 November were accepted.
  3. Geoff provided the treasury balance of $2743 including $100 anonymous donation for a possible memorial paver for Bhrian Resnik.
  4. J. Jeffryes reported that he’s keeping up with listing winners on the Fleet 4 Champions and Trophies page.
  5. Geoff reported that there is no new national news.
  6. Lee counted confirmed that we have a quorum for voting.
  7. Shah has been sold and is out of the fleet for now.

Old Business

  1. Trophies.  J. Jeffryes reminded all that we now have an action to provide trophies for the 2020 Fleet 4 Single-Handed and Double-Handed champions.
  2. Sling.  Lee is working to get a fleet sling to Wayne so that sling and scale can be kept together.
  3. Trailer.  Tom is working on securing a fleet trailer…. he is currently awaiting feedback from Phil Thompson.  Tom said that most available trailers will require modification to suit Harbor 20’s since exactly compatible trailers are not numerous.
  4. Chalk Talk.  Bill Hahn summarized his meeting with Brad Schaupeter on a sailing class.  Brad is up for any topic, anytime, anywhere. Fleet 4 now needs to specify its wishes.  Lee has offered a large conference room at his firm for a location.  Bill suggested that the class be no longer than 3 hours.  Several agreed that rules around the weather mark and all marks would be a good topic.  Another comment was that we could do the class before noon and have a party after noon.  Lee and the rest of the fleet will watch the progress with COVID to see when we might approach this event. Morgan suggested that we might include the exact procedure for protesting in Brad’s class.
  5. Party.  All are aware of the need for a party and all are watching COVID progress.
  6. Bylaws.
    • Fleet 4 Hiking.  Lee brought up our past proposal to revert to the class rules.  Some discussion ensued and it was concluded that the need to hold out a spinn sheet, to clear kelp, or to go forward to work jams and emergencies would not be precluded by the Class Rules. It was moved, seconded, and unanimously approved to make this change. J. Jeffryes will modify the online bylaws and remove the Fleet 4 allowance for increased hiking, Rule I.3.
    • Fleet 4 Championship Races.  Al moved and Morgan seconded that we incorporate our proposed change for Rule F.1. Lee reminded all that the new definition applies only to one-design racing for Fleet 4 members in determination of the yearly Championship.  All voted “aye”.  Rule F1 is to be removed and replaced by: “All Harbor 20 Fleet 4 bylaws and modifications to Class rules shall apply to all one design Harbor 20 races in Santa Barbara waters designated for the yearly Fleet 4 Championship.”
  7. North Sails.  Lee is in the process of discussing with Wayne the need to pull North Sails out of action. Al also suggested that protesting might be the right course to straighten out hardware configurations like this. Caroline and Jane emphasized that unofficial complaining is probably counterproductive and we should have clear rules with protests.  There was much discussion and general encouragement of protesting.
  8. Sail Purchase.  Lee reminded everyone of the 15% mainsail discount. He also reminded us that Ullman is able and willing to cut Fleet 4 sails fuller for ocean power. Lee also reported that North sails might be about the same price Ullman sails. There was much discussion on the pros and cons of modified sails or sails from multiple manufacturers. Bill, Lee, Al, and Geoff said they were particularly concerned and lean away from changing our mainsail rule. Geoff further reminded us that if a change is made it can be handled fairly easily as we’ve done in the past by having a grace period….he also suggested a subcommittee to work this.  Another aspect of this topic raised by Geoff and Lee is the possibility of taking our sails out of town to use in other regattas on chartered/borrowed yachts. Jane reminded us that many one design fleets allow multiple manufacturers within a sufficiently controlled specification. Lee countered with the value of restrictions for a one-design fleet. Bill suggested that we address the manufacturer of H20 spinnakers in the same task.  Lee suggested that we continue this discussion in the future.
  9. Safety Equipment.  Lee suggested we postpone discussing Fleet 4 safety equipment.
  10. 2021 Board.  Lee Cushman assured all that he would follow the structure of being on the 2021 board as the past captain.  Morgan described the process for setting up a new board as having two phases, all handled via email to a single source: a. Nominating open for a set time span.  b. Voting with late voters chased down individually.  Lee suggested that JJ and he would give it a try to conduct this process. The current board nominees are, Greg Hopkins, Bill Hahn, Geoff Slaff, and Morgan Green.
  11. Dues. Geoff brought up an older discussion on possibly having a different fee for dues in 2021 considering the missed party, etc.  Al suggested that the rate be kept at $100 to guard against unexpected expenses. Bill asked that we consider again convenience in paying the $15 class fee. Lee moved, it was seconded and all voted “aye” to keep the dues at $100. Geoff will work this separately in his role as Treasurer.

New Business

  1. None.

Next meeting

Thursday, January 21st, 2021 1730 (5:30 p.m.)

Adjournment

1853 (6:53 p.m.)

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes November 19th, 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

19 November 2020

Attendees:

Rich Miller, John Jeffryes, Lee Cushman, Geoff Slaff, Bill Hahn, Phil Franklin     

  1. 5:00 P.M. conference call with Class President and Attorney representing the Class regarding the Class lawsuit.
  2. Voting proxies for this meeting: none applicable

Old Business & Action Item

  1. Sling for Fleet add to scale equipment Lee needs to deliver to Wayne.
  2. Fleet trailer idea/pool information (Tom Wright).
  3. Rules chalk talk Brad Schaupeter, Bill Hahn to discuss idea. Action Bill to follow up with Brad about a Half Day class “Rules at Start and Mark Rounding’s”
  4. Fleet party confirm date & place Hosted by the Millers. ON HOLD
  5. Discuss Double-Handed/Short-Handed Race:
    • Single Handed Harbor 20 Champion will be determined at SBSC Bougay event. (Defending Champion Geoff Slaff)
    • Double Handed Harbor 20 Champions will be determined at SBYC Double Handed race ( November 21st )  General discussion and agreement that these two events are good Ideas and can be managed and acknowledge at Fleet level.
  6.  North Sails: Lee suggested that Wayne be asked to take the sample North main and jib out of circulation for all racing events until fleet accepts change. If Wayne is agreeable Fleet members could try sails if desired in non-racing conditions or CHRF races. The report on these north sails is they are better shape and could be more economical as life span could be longer.  Action: Lee to discuss with Wayne. Some Discussion: History of decision to go with Ullman Main. Objective of Bylaws is for all boats to be using same Manufacture in order to keep cost of competing reasonable, and keeping the playing field level. It was assumed that the initial cost of North sails are more expensive then Ullman however if they hold their shape longer the price point may work out.
  7. Bylaws: No Action (Not enough members present)

A.  Action: replace F1 with “All Harbor 20 Fleet 4 modifications to class rules shall apply to all   one design Harbor 20 races in Santa Barbara waters.”

B.  Also F3 “All Fleet Races are counted for purposes of scoring the Fleet 4 Championship” is not true and needs to be deleted.

C.  Hiking:  Action: We revoke Fleet Four bylaw I.3, which states: “All crew shall keep their hips within the confines of the cockpit at all times excepting the need for immediate repair or safety.”

This revocation would mean Fleet Four would revert to the existing Harbor 20 Class Association rule which states:

“II.C.4. Hiking is not permitted. All crew shall keep their torsos within the confines of the cockpit at all times, excepting in the need for immediate repair or safety.”

8. Should we make a special Fleet 4 safety equipment list for Bylaws?

  New Business & Action Items:

  1. Holiday Regatta, fourth class Championship points race Saturday December 5th.
  2. 2021 Fleet Championship races need to report back to Sail Policy Committee Prior to December1st. Discussion by members present was to return to pre-Covid schedule of races, which include the following ( SBYC Spring Regatta , SBSC Cinco De Mayo(Saturday only), SBYC Summer Regatta, SBYC Fiesta Cup (Both Days), SBYC Fall Regatta, SBSC Goblin Regatta (Saturday Only), SBYC Holiday Regatta (Saturday Only) with two Throw Outs.
  3. Fleet Order for new Sails.  Action: Lee To Contact Greg Dair Ullman Rep and alert Fleet to group sail purchase
  4. Geoff Mention that New Board to be installed by end of February. Action: FLEET  Lee to put out Email for Nominations.
  5. Next meeting:  Thursday, December 17th 2020 5:30 pm.

Meeting Adjourned 6:25 p.m.

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes October 22, 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

22 October 2020

Attendees:

Rich Miller, Morgan Green, John Jeffryes, Lee Cushman     

2020 Long Term Proxies:

      YACHT                            OWNER                                      PROXY

Fleur de Lis                           Al Salzer                                Billy Bench

TachyToo                              Wayne Rosing                      Greg Hopkins

One Time Proxies:

      YACHT                             OWNER                                         PROXY

Pleione II                               Geoff Slaff                            Rich Miller (attached below)

Call to Order: 5:40 p.m.

Old Business & Action Items

  1. 2021 Party:

Rich said that he and Cheryl are up for putting on the party.  Rich took the action to come back with a suggested date.

2.  Hiking Rule:

Lee suggested Morgan to come up with a proposal for a bylaw change to vote on for the next meeting. Morgan’s research led to her suggestion that we eliminate the Fleet 4 hiking allowances and revert to the basic Class rules. Morgan read parts of the Class rules and all parties discussed. Morgan took the action to draft up a proposition to vote on, and immediately followed up with the suggestion to remove the Fleet 4 hiking exception, Rule I.4 (attached below).

>>> VOTE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MEETING.

3. Invoking Class Rules:

Morgan asked how our Class rules and Bylaws are normally invoked. Rich stated that he already had the action to discuss with Brad the membership rules and would also discuss how Class and Fleet 4 bylaws are brought into play for various regattas. Discussion followed on various paragraphs of the Bylaws that would be impacted. Morgan and Rich and others present with Lee summarizing, agreed that the best approach for now and for voting into the Bylaws at the next meeting would be: All Fleet 4 Harbor 20 one-design races in Santa Barbara County will be Class races with Fleet 4 Bylaws applicable.

>>> Rich and Morgan took the action to fine tune these words and forward to Lee.

>>> VOTE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MEETING.

4. Single-Handed and Double-Handed Champions:

Lee suggested and there was general agreement that Fleet 4 should have two annual awards: one for the Fleet Single-Handed Champion and one for the Fleet Double-Handed Champion. These might be awarded to the Harbor 20 winner of the SBSC Bugay Single-Handed Race, and the SBYC Double-Handed Short-Handed Regatta. Specifics to be discussed in the future.

5.  North Sails: Lee suggested that Wayne be asked to take the sample North main and jib out of circulation for all racing events until fleet accepts change. If Wayne is agreeable Fleet members could try sails if desired in non-racing conditions or CHRF races. The report on these north sails is they are better shape and could be more economical as life span could be longer.  Action: Lee to discuss with Wayne.

>>> Next meeting:  Thursday, November 19th 2020 5:30 pm.

Meeting Adjourned 1830.

END (of Minutes)

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One Time Proxy:

Re: Fleet 4 Agenda for Thursday

Geoffrey SlaffTue, Oct 13, 1:58 PM
to JJ, Lee, Morgan

Hello,

I will not be at the fleet meeting since I need to cover the class meeting which is at the same time. There is no change in treasurer’s report from last meeting. I wasn’t planning on sending a new spreadsheet since there is no change so please let me know if you would like me to do so. 

Rich Miller has my proxy.

All the best,

Geoffrey Slaff
gfslaff@gmail.com
Cell: 805-796-3100

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Bylaw Proposal:

Morgan Green Email on Hiking Rule Proposal:

proposed modification to Fleet Four bylaws

Inbox

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morgan greenThurs. 22 Oct. 2020, 6:21 PM
to Lee, JJ

As we discussed at the meeting and as you requested:

 I propose:

We revoke Fleet Four bylaw I.3, which states: ” All crew shall keep their hips within the confines of the cockpit at all times excepting the need for immediate repair or safety.”

This revocation would mean Fleet Four would revert to the existing Harbor 20 Class Association rule which states:

II.C.4. Hiking is not permitted. All crew shall keep their torsos within the confines of the cockpit at all times, excepting in the need for immediate repair or safety.

Please let me know if you need anything further on this.  Seeya on the water this Saturday. Morgan

END

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes September 17th, 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

17 September 2020

Attendees:

Rich Miller, Morgan Green, Caroline Kavanagh, John Jeffryes, Lee Cushman, Geoff Slaff, Al Salzer, Bill Hahn   

2020 Long Term Proxies:

  YACHT                                     OWNER                                    PROXY

Fleur de Lis                           Al Salzer                                Billy Bench

TachyToo                              Wayne Rosing                      Greg Hopkins

  1. Call to Order: 5:40 p.m.
  2. Old minutes were approved.
  3. Website: JJ said that the Winners/Trophies were up to date and asked for any comments/corrections.
  4. Geoff reported on the Treasury:
    1. Balance is $2743.42.
    1. $500 was spent on the Miramar Anchor-Down Race.
    1. Still have enough for a 2020 party.
  5. Rich reported on Association/National level:
    1. The legal issue is not settled partly because of COVID slowdowns (details omitted purposely).
    1. The Nationals Championship is tentatively scheduled for May 2021 in Annapolis.
    1. The East-West Challenge is tentatively scheduled for October 2021 in New Port.
  6. Voting proxies for this meeting: none.

Old Business & Action Items

1.  Fleet Bylaws submission of items to clean up/modify (Lee to stimulate process). See new business items: Hiking and Membership.

2.  Sling for Fleet add to scale equipment (Lee report) Lee and Rick Yabsley purchased sling wants to try it out and will give feedback to fleet prior to recommending Fleet purchase.

3.  Fleet trailer idea/pool information (Tom Wright). Tom was absent from meeting.

4.  Contact Dave Ullman regarding chalk talk or on water sail trim class (Lee action). Lee did not do this prior to meeting however several members gave feedback on subject: J-70 on water training by Ullman not what they had hoped for…time and money better spent on learning rules.

New Business & Action Items

1.  2020 Party:

  1. Morgan suggested we might consider using the SBYC palapa bar for a venue.
    1. Geoff suggested we wait till January 2021 if it gets too difficult to have the party.
    1. Geoff further suggested we use the planned party money for an outdoor fun race/party activity such as another single-handed race.
    1. Rich commented that if we do have the party in January and we are still under COVID restrictions, we have the function outside from 1300 – 1700. In addition Rich offered his house as possible venue.
    1. Lee suggested we cast a wider net and look for input from the rest of the               Fleet.    

2.  Hiking:

  1. Morgan expressed a concern for crews pushing our hiking allowance to the limit and hiking their torsos clear out of the cockpit for upwind sailing.
  2. Rich related a discussion with Tom Schock that hiking allowances may seriously degrade the class intent.
  3. Rich brought up that if we pull back our hiking allowances we will need to allow for short periods of hiking or reaching for roll-tacking, kelp clearing, and spinnaker flying.
  4. Geoff brought up that for firm enactment of rules we have to be ready to      protest
  5. Lee encouraged all to focus on improving our own Sailing skills and rule knowledge to improve our results verses focusing on creating new rules to slow others down.
  6. Al felt strongly that hiking rule must be observed and if not, it should be taken to the protest room.
  7. Action Morgan is to write new hiking rule to better define intent and will present to fleet.

3.  Membership:     

 Morgan brought up the need to clarify whether Fleet 4 non-members can race. Also, defining Class membership might be needed. Which rules do they follow? Will SBYC and SBSC clearly define all applicable bylaws in NOR’s and SI’s?  Action: Rich Miller to research Centennial Cup bylaws/rules to insure that Fleet 4 membership is requirement to represent Harbor Twenty Class in Centennial Cup Regatta.

4.        Geoff is canceling his monitoring of non-spinnaker classes for lack of interest at end of Wet Wednesday Season.

5.        Rich asked for feedback on actual performance of North sails on the Tachy boats. No one at meeting could provide feedback.

6.        Lee suggested more single-handed racing next year, perhaps to incorporate with the SBSC Bugay race, H-20 single-handed champion. Lee also suggested double-handed champion, Lee will work this, possibly to get it included with the SBYC double-handed race schedule.

7.        Geoff reminded all of possibly creating Fleet 4 safety requirements such as flotation requirements, bigger anchors, ladders, etc.

8.  Bill Hahn suggested a refining of boat weight requirements to remove special battery weight replacement if the total boat weight is over minimum. Rich reminded all that weight must be distributed in accordance to Class rules.

9.  Next meeting:  Thursday, October 15th 2020 5:30 pm.

Meeting Adjourned 6:47 p.m.

Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes July 16th, 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING

Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes

16 July 2020, 1735

Attendees:

Rich Miller, Morgan Green, John Jeffryes, Lee Cushman, Wayne Rosing, Geoff Slaff, Al Salzer, Tom Wright, Phil Frank, Bill Hahn                  

2020 Long Term Proxies:

   YACHT                                   OWNER                                  PROXY

Fleur de Lis                           Al Salzer                                Billy Bench

TachyToo                              Wayne Rosing                      Greg Hopkins

  1. Voting proxies for this meeting:
    1. Morgan Green, Geoff Slaff, Lee Cushman…all three for Kevin Cahill if they all agree. Otherwise, abstain. Email appended below.
  2. Old minutes were approved.
  3. Geoff reported no changes…..treasury balance is $3247.40.
  4. Geoff reported on Association/National level:
    1. There is a new legal issue ongoing perhaps to be resolved soon (details omitted purposely).
    1. Whether or not to have the East-West Challenge is being decided on the 18th in Newport Beach.
    1. The Class Championship was canceled in May, but it is being planned for 2021 in May in Annapolis, concurrent with a keelboat regatta there.
  5. JJ asked about the exact method of submitting proposed bylaw changes and Lee took action to map out and stimulate the process as suggested by Geoff.
  6. JJ brought up new 2020 Championship series previously agreed upon and took the action to update the web entries for:  1. “Champions/Trophies” 2. NOR referenced and linked on the “Champions/Trophies” page.
  7. Lee brought up and all commented on the great participation in the non-spinn H20 class that Geoff has lightly organized lately. Tom asked about interest in this sort of arrangement for post-COVID racing….several members are interested.
  8. Miramar Anchor-Down Race.  There was much discussion on the planned date, September 26th or August 1st.  More discussion ensued on involvement of non-members.  Lee moved and Geoff seconded that Rick/Nina Yabsley be selected to run the race on August 1st.  Kevin Cahill and Morgan Green abstained, all others voted “aye”.  The expenditure for the 2019 race was about $900 and the budget for this year’s race is $500.  Both numbers exclude the price of the perpetual trophy.  Tom Wright volunteered to coordinated between the Fleet and the Yabsleys.
  9.  Wayne thanked all for making the Fleet weighing happen.  He sent out results, email appended below.  It was mentioned that the same scale was used this year as in 2019.  Future calibration of the scale was discussed as a non-urgent goal. The lack of a Fleet-owned sling was brought up and Lee volunteered to work the procurement of one. The possible effects of flotation, waterlogged, foam, inflated, and otherwise, was brought up. It was also generally understood that the fiberglas and balsa of the boat also soak up water.
  10. Discussion continued on possibly putting flotation requirements into the Fleet 4 Bylaws considering all of the ocean exposure we have. Geoff suggested that we address a full additional safety list for Fleet 4 including flotation.  There was general agreement and Morgan requested that Tom Wright send around the flotation information that he described. Tom took the action.
  11. Lee reminded all of the upcoming Fiesta Regatta and the rescheduled Summer Regatta.  All were reminded that the Fiesta Regatta is the only two day regatta left on the Fleet 4 calendar.
  12. Fleet Trailer.  The idea of owning a Fleet 4 H20 trailer was floated and all found the idea attractive. Bill Hahn volunteered to store a trailer if we acquire one. Geoff suggested a placeholder in our budget, but more discussion on the possible price between hundreds and thousands of dollars encouraged Lee and Geoff to volunteer to start researching the topic first, and bring a report/proposal to our next (September) meeting. Finally, Tom agreed to lead an effort with Morgan, Lee, Rich, and Geoff participating in pooling information and research on pricing and acquiring a trailer.
  13. There was discussion on getting some of Dave Ullman’s time to discuss H20 sails. It is believed that he will be at the Fiesta Regatta and will be meeting with the J70 fleet. Lee took the action to try to contact Dave for a H20 talk either Fiesta weekend or at another date.
  14. Next meeting:  Thursday, September 17th.
  15. Meeting adjourned.

END

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PROXY EMAIL FROM KEVIN CAHILL:

    Re: Agenda Fleet 4 July 16th

Kevin CahillThu, Jul 16, 4:36 PM
To: me [JJ], Lee, Geoffrey, Morgan, Rich

I apologize for not being available to participate in tonight’s “zoom” Fleet 4 meeting. After reviewing the Agenda, it does not appear that any motions are pending. BUT, if a motion is made, I grant Lee, Morgan and Geoff a fractional interest in my proxy. So if they all don’t agree, then SHAH abstains.

FYI. I was able to get to the west campus of SBCC yesterday and watched the H20’s start and how the fleet worked its way to the weather mark….nice and tight! Well done to all the boats!

Kevin Cahill

CKCAHILL@COX.NET

805.452.0211

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WAYNE ROSING EMAIL ON BOATS WEIGHED ON JULY 11TH:

Weigh in results

WRWayne Rosing <wrosing@lco.global>

Sat 7/11/2020 2:06 PM

To:

  •  You [JJ];
  •  Jane Barret & Tom Wright;
  •  Lee Cushman;
  •  Philip Franklin;
  •  William Hahn MD

Weigh in results:  2020 07 11  10AM PDT

sod   1959
fling  1975
simone 2080 – 5 sail cover = 2075
tachyon 1989
tachytoo 2084   

I will post these into the spreadsheet  Tom sent me and forward that as well in a day or two.  I assume we can appropriate the results into the next set of minutes going to the Fleet.

Thanks to all involved and for Greg taking the big plunge.

W

Clear skies, 

Wayne Rosing

Founder

805 708 6901 cell  

805 880 1603 office

Please note wrosing@lco.global is our preferred address.

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Fleet 4 Meeting Minutes June 18th, 2020

VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING
Fleet 4 Harbor-20 Fleet Meeting Minutes
18 June 2020
Attendees:
Rich Miller, Morgan Green, John Jeffryes, Lee Cushman, Wayne Rosing, Geoff Slaff, Al Salzer, Tom Wright, Jane Barrett, Caroline Kavanagh

2020 Long Term Proxies:

  YACHT               OWNER                PROXY

Fleur de Lis Al Salzer Billy Bench
TachyToo Wayne Rosing Greg Hopkins

  1. Voting proxies for this meeting:
    a. John Jeffryes for Bill Hahn
    b. Morgan Green for Brian Green and Kevin Cahill
  2. Old minutes were approved.
  3. Geoff reported no changes.
  4. Rich reported nothing new at the national level.
  5. Lee reported on the Sail Policy Committee on the limited racing resumptions as shown on the revised SBYC schedule. He brought up the COVID rule about having 2 sailors maximum on Harbor 20’s. SBYC is interested in minimizing the number of people and interactions, and is interested in minimizing the appearance of too many people with regard to Santa Barbara’s COVID rules. Wayne commented that the appearance of too many people was not a good excuse for the crew limitation. There was much agreement on this point. Much discussion ensued with Rich stating the value of sailing with household members only for COVID control and the disadvantage of sailing with 2 if others are sailing with 3. Al Salzer described the need to have 3 or more crew for most conditions as a safety factor. Tom Wright agreed with Al. Rich further reminded all that protesting published rules is the recourse as required. Various restatements of these concerns came from other attendees. Morgan suggested and Lee accepted the task to feedback to Brad and the Sail Policy Committee the strong wish to be allowed to sail with more than two crew. All voted “aye” for this approach.
  6. Wayne moved to accept the redrafted bylaws, Morgan seconded, and the vote of all present was unanimous. JJ will incorporate the previously approved manner of voting and post the redrafted bylaws, sending them out by email in parallel to all owners and proxy voters with a request for needed substantive changes. Upon receipt of input from fleet on changes Board will meet and prioritize the list. Lee reviewed this voting scheme:
    a. In person or remotely via phone connection, or
    b. By e-mailing a board member his/her proxy beforehand, or
    c. By e-mailing a board member his/her vote beforehand.
  7. Lee stated that he, Geoff, and Rich are interested in being part of the team representing “West” in the East-West Challenge in Newport Beach on October 2/3/4. JJ will contact Bill Hahn regarding his interest. Geoff and Rich mentioned other new owners and their possible interest. Lee agreed to check with all.
  8. The subject of communicating with other local H20 interested parties came up and Lee summarized the discussion by stating that owners should forward to him names and emails of drew that they would like to keep informed of Fleet 4 activities. JJ will add these names to the “Interested Parties” list and the list will be used as required in the future. In all cases, owners should encourage their involved crew to participate in appropriate activities. All present agreed on this approach.
  9. Lee brought up date for weighing……there were no strong comments, though Rich mentioned that Saturday morning might cause the least conflict of the two times that Lee had earlier suggested: Friday, July 10th afternoon, Saturday, July 11th, morning. Lee will put out an email on this.
  10. Lee said that Brad would like some input on how to pick the SBYC H20 Fleet Champion for 2020. Various schemes were discussed……Geoff’s moved for 4 regattas with one throw-out. Further, if the SBYC experiences major scheduling problems during the remainder of 2020, the Champion would be the winner of the Summer One Design Regatta. Lee seconded the motion, all voted “aye”. The regattas would be:
    a. Rescheduled Summer One Design Regatta Saturday, August 8th.
    b. Fall One Design Regatta Saturday, October 4th.
    c. SBSC Goblin Regatta, Saturday only, October 24th.
    d. Reinstated Holiday Regatta, Saturday only, December 5th.
  11. Rich requested that the previous meeting’s minutes be forwarded with the upcoming meeting agenda. Lee and JJ agreed to do this.
  12. Geoff brought up the idea of having fewer meetings…..Al suggested going ahead with July’s meeting and considering thinning out the future meeting schedule, such as skipping the August meeting. Lee reminded all that, so far, 2020 meetings have been busy, long, and productive.
  13. Rich brought up the subject of spinnaker manufacturer and we were all reminded that the manufacturer is not designated in our bylaws and that we can go forward that way.
  14. Next meeting: Thursday, July 16th.
  15. Meeting adjourned.
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